Friday, February 27, 2009

Danny Boy

So what made Manchester famous? What springs to mind when you hear the word Manchester?

Cotton?

Canals?
Coronation St?
Cycling?

Could it be the Peterloo massacre?


Probably it’s The Hacienda, New order or Oasis.


These days it’s Pies. Apparently sales of Holland’s pies are soaring as consumers turn to value-for-money food during the recession.

Wigan is where they eat them. A Wigan kebab is 6 meat pies on a skewer!

Kate Winslet used to eat pies.

But bugger Winslet - what about our Danny from Radcliffe near Manchester eh?

8 Oscars for Slumdog - beat that!


Radcliffe is the sort of the Lancashire town that time forgot. It makes Oldham seem like New York. There was an Oscar night celebration in St Mary’s Club Radcliffe where Danny’s dad celebrated with a bacon butty.

Who’d a thowt it?
KAZ

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31 Comments:

Blogger Steve said...

Whenever I see or hear the word Manchester I automatically think of Bez from Happy Mondays. I'm not sure how I feel about that though.

7:57 am  
Blogger I, Like The View said...

I thought we weren't allowed to eat pies anymore. . .

perhaps I'll throw my cares to the wind and have one anyway

(only the one mind, don't want to end up looking like Kate)

8:10 am  
Blogger Dave said...

I have no idea who or what The Hacienda, New order or Oasis are, so they 'probably' don't spring to mind.

I do know what the the Peterloo massacre was, and it is one of my images of Manchester.

As I actually spent a few days in the city some seven years or so ago, researching my book, the image of Manchester that first springs to mind is the John Radcliffe Library.

Happy days.

8:10 am  
Blogger Dave said...

Ooops. I meant the John Rylands Library.

10:40 am  
Blogger Geoff said...

Pasties v Pies. Though pasties are in my blood I used to eat pies more often. Being all middle class now though, give me a nice quiche any day.

12:04 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Steve:
I’m sure Bez ia a lovely lad - but not exactly heroic material.
Did he win Big Brother as well as Mark from take That?
Mark’s from Oldham.

View:
As the old saying goes …You can take the salt out of the pie - but you can’t take the salt out of the pie eater.
I used to adore cheese and onion pies.

Dave 1:
Have you heard of Take That?
If not, what about the Ali orchestra?

Dave 2:
Wonderful place - whatever it’s called.
I’ll get searches for John Radcliffe now.

12:04 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Geoff:
I presume you are referring to your Cornish ancestry.
To give up Pasties for Pies is a bit of a ’turnover’.
Quiche is for wimps!

12:07 pm  
Blogger Vicus Scurra said...

Sir Frank Worrell was famous for his Lancashire accent. "Ee, Everton, tha barmpot, tha's chucked tha wicket away just when we were doing champion". You will note that Sir Everton Weekes was a scouser (he was on Sky Sports yesterday).

12:09 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Was he interviewing Sir Clyde Walcott? Oh no - sorry - he plays for Arsenal not Everton.

My gran used to say ‘tha’s done champion’ - I haven’t heard it since.

12:15 pm  
Blogger Dave said...

I'm not really up on popular culsture, so i'm afrain I have no idea who or what Take That are.

I have, of course, heard of the Ali Orchestra. I like their interpretation of the Alileua Chorus.

1:50 pm  
Blogger Arabella said...

I think of The Farm playing The Hole In The Wall.
The Cheshire Cheese.
And what was that huge old warehouse that was a mess of second hand clothes and records stalls?

2:07 pm  
Blogger Dave said...

'what was that huge old warehouse that was a mess of second hand clothes and records stalls?'

Woolworths

2:28 pm  
Blogger Rol said...

The Smiths before New Order and Nowaysis.

I think I preferred Kate when she ate pies. Not that I have anything against the current version.

3:42 pm  
Blogger MJ said...

Cotton? As in Anthony Cotton? Who plays Sean Tully in Corrie?

See? All cobblestoned roads lead to Coronation Street.

4:40 pm  
Blogger Rog said...

Good on Danny Boyle for getting all those Oscars without even an American Actor in the film.

The Whitworth Art Gallery is a fab centre of excellence. And the Museum of Science and Industry.

Noel Gallagher should go solo and ditch the loser brother.

5:00 pm  
Anonymous NiC said...

1.Rain - sorry but every time I've been to Manchester it has rained.

2. Bad football (United).

3. Kaz - so, there is good there too!

(Mrs.LDNP also spent much of her yoof in Manc, so that's the other bit of good).

6:33 pm  
Blogger Malc said...

Edgy trips to Maine Road to report on City games. I used to get there early so I could park my car by the police vans.

Steak and kidney puddings with extra gravy outside Bolton's Burnden Park.

Boddington's before they ruined it.

Joy Division.

With a bit of training and the right diet Kate could do a job for Salford in Superleague.

6:39 pm  
Blogger garfer said...

'The rain falls down on a humdrum town, this ton could get you down'

Manchester, Manchester, so much to answer for'

Moz

I have refused to set foot in the place since the Free Trade Hall was turned into a hotel.

7:07 pm  
Blogger garfer said...

Town

7:08 pm  
Blogger Betty said...

Is Arabella referring to Affleck's Palace? I could be wrong, I usually am.

Manchester makes me think of Joy Division, Tony Wilson, George Best and Manchester Tart, which was always on the school dinners menu.

7:41 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Dave:
I simply don’t believe that you haven’t heard of Take That.
Even Jethro probably knows who they are!

I believe the Alileua Chorus is a great favourite with the local Pakistani community.

Arabella:
Probably Affleck’s Palace.
Which - like most things like that is not what it was. It’s mostly new stuff now,
I bought my 50s coffee table from there and a wonderful old leopard skin coat. I sent it to Oxfam only last week as I was worried about my image.

Dave:
No - Afflecks is still there - but no Embassy records or Pick ‘n Mix.

Rol:
Glad you said The Smiths - Some people just associate them with Salford - not realising that it’s the same thing.
I saw Revolutionary Rd - Kate must work very hard at keeping that slim figure.
The girl can certainly act.

MJ:
Anthony’s a born and bred Manc.
Aren’t you going to congratulate us on all those Oscars?

10:15 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Rog:
Thing is, I've dragged so many badly behaved schoolkids round that Museum of Science and Industry that I'll probably never go back there again.
But Liam's supposed to be the 'sex interest' - so i'm told. Though how you get a sex symbol from Burnage I can't imagine.

NiC:
1: Don’t believe the stereotype - we’re no wetter than London.
2: True (though the statistics don’t agree.
3: (Blushes)

No doubt some of the culture has been passed on.

Malc:
Wow - and you mean you were given money to watch the match.
My mum and dad did their courting at Burnden park - I wondered why she always loved those puddings - even after she defected to the Rovers.

Boddies - I blame Melanie Sykes.

Garfer:
‘Manchester, Manchester, so much to answer for' - my favourite line - pure poetry.
RIP - the Fee Trade Hall - at least there’s a plaque to Peterloo outside. I walked past it earlier this evening.

Betty:
I think she must be or I’m wrong too.
It’s amazing about Manchester Tart - it must have been some ulterior government plot to keep the kids chubby. You never ever see it anywhere except on school dinners - like beef olives, rainbow sponge and tapioca pudding.
Eat yer heart out Jamie Oliver.

10:16 pm  
Blogger Arabella said...

Can't believe there's a pudding I haven't eaten. Please give recipe for Manchester Tart.
Indeed, it was Affleck's palace.

10:49 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Short crust pastry in flan tin, layer of raspberry jam, thick layer of custard (probably Birds).
Some say sprinkle with coconut others hundreds-and-thousands or grated choc.
You probably had it for school dinner as well.
Apparently it started with Mrs Beeton.

11:20 am  
Blogger Geoff said...

Us southerners didn't have Manchester Tart. We had Gypsy Tart.

4:53 pm  
Blogger Old Wom Tigley said...

Great post...... and as always Kaz your humour had me a smiling.

Tom

Wiggers World

5:16 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Geoff:
I have never ever heard of Gypsy Tart - but research shows it is another school dinner delicacy. There must be a line somewhere that divides the gypsy tart eaters from the Manchester Tart eaters.
Yours sounds just like sugar pie.
At least ours might have half a vitamin in the raspberry.

Wom:
Hi again.
I'll wager you've had a few Wigan kebabs in your day :)

8:50 pm  
Anonymous NiC said...

On the rainfall front a quick check suggests you're 33% wetter than London :)

(ca 800mm rain vs 600mm).


I didn't even know Danny Boyle was from Manchester, I'd always assumed him Scottish (presumably because of Shallow Grave and Trainspotting). I see the BBC says he's come home to show you all his oscars......I expect photos!

1:20 pm  
Blogger tony said...

Crumbs! A Wigan-Kebab.Food For Thought!

1:20 pm  
Blogger Hyde DP said...

Whenever I've been abroad and mentioned Manchester the cry has always been Manchester United!!

Hollands pies are surely associated with Rossendale rather than Manchester

Alleluia Chorus reminds me more of Huddersfield and the woman that whispered to me during the anthem "All we like sheep" - "Lamb's alright i moderation but give me a bit of beef anyday!"

3:51 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

NiC:
Damn statistics - yes I remember that we got cotton because of the damp atmosphere. But my geog teacher (I was useless at Geography) also told me that the rain in Manchester fell mainly at night.
I made the same mistake about Danny Boyle - I'm a big fan of Shallow Grave.
Yes - he was in Radcliffe today - but unfortunately I wasn't.

Tony:
Food for Flab as well.

Gerald:
The first time I went abroad (1966 in Rome) the first reaction to Manchester was 'Bobby Charlton'.
It says Baxenden on that van - but I read it on the front page of the Manchester Evening news.

7:00 pm  

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