Tuesday, November 10, 2009

It's coming around again

Do you recognise the bloke in the picture?
He was our toff Prime Minister for a couple of years in the early 60s.
We were used to toffs in those days.

Here's a list of British Prime ministers so you can see what I've had to put up with during my life.

I came from a left wing family and my dad was a keen member of leftie associations and book clubs. My dad would read and my mum would rant.

So it's very odd that I was devoted to my Royal Family scrap book. No I don't understand it either - just one of those things that we didn't question.

Harold Wilson 'released' us from the Toff Tories, then Uncle Jim Callaghan lost to Thatcher. Thatcher, Heath, Major etc. were a different type of (state educated) Tory and possibly worse. You know what I think of Blair & co. but they did make some valuable social changes.

But, reading this article and Geoff's post at the weekend made me realise that (in the words of Carly Simon)


I know nothing stays the same
But if you're willing to play the game
It's coming around again
So don't mind if I fall apart
There's more room in my broken heart


KAZ

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38 Comments:

Blogger Steve said...

Toff or working class makes no odds to me. A bit of honesty, integrity and decency would be nice though.

Yeah, I know. Fat chance.

12:17 pm  
Blogger Ponita in Real Life said...

These days, it seems all politicians are fast talking, lying scum who never do what they say.

I dislike them all...

My condolences.

12:52 pm  
Blogger Ad said...

I feel the only saving grace will that it will be a hung parliament next time around which will bring around another conundrum of Coalition Governments.

1:15 pm  
Blogger Vicus Scurra said...

That's Baillie Vass!
Those were the days when PM's had to arm themselves for fear of attack.
Not the flipping bounders walk around with no fear of assassination.

2:22 pm  
Blogger MJ said...

The entire nation should be compensated financially for putting up with the Thatcher years.

2:46 pm  
Blogger I, Like The View said...

Carly's brilliant, isn't she. . . I frequently hum "You're So Vain" during the news

shame about the statistics - my state-educated teens won't have a hope of running the country, will they

(unless it all changes again in a few years time) (in which case, g*d - or your favourite deity - help us) (why are there so few decent and honourable politicians with the best interests of the country, its polulace economy and foreign realtionships, not just at heart but on their "to do" lists in the "urgent/important" box? )

2:53 pm  
Blogger Macy said...

Yep - and north of the border Alex Salmon is rubbing his chubby wee hands in glee at the prospect of a tory victory.
Ah'm fair depressed a'ready.

2:53 pm  
Blogger Dave said...

We need some toffs back in charge. They're used to ruling us.

2:56 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Steve:
I am working my way through the complete set of West Wing DVDs at present.
Why can't we have some guys like that?

Ponita:
Thanks for the condolences.
They are all in it for greed and power - not a principle in sight.

Hi Ad:
Do you think that's a possibility.
Surely the attitude of the SUN etc. and Gordon's inability to sell himself are going to lead to Tory landslide.

Vicus:
Ha Ha - Yes.
It is the handsome man himself.
I remember Edward Heath and his conductor's baton. That would put the wind up anyone.

MJ:
I'm sure that will be on David Cameron's manifesto.
Then we'll know it won't happen.

View:
No they are obviously not suitable.
As Jacob Rees Mogg said when challenged about the high proportion of privately educated Tory candidates - "We're not going to be able to form a government if it has potted plants as candidates … to make up quotas."
It's in the article at the end.
Nice point about the 'to do' list - see comment above re West Wing.

Macy:
Scotland and Manchester are still largely Tory free.
Perhaps Alex is waiting to take us over as well.

3:03 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Dave:
Of course - I never thought of that.
Their nannies taught them how.

3:04 pm  
Blogger Roger said...

Baillie Vass, Baillie Vass
Didn't know his elbow
From his Arse

Power corrupts and absolute power is even more fun. That's why we admire the nearly-men of politics - John Smith, Robin Cook etc. The spectacle of the ones with their hands on the tiller of power and their snouts in the trough of expenses has been extremely sad.

4:08 pm  
Blogger Scarlet Blue said...

I've been on a reading tour and nearly forgot to come back!
I'd like straight answers - wouldn't that be a novelty?
Sx

5:41 pm  
Blogger xl said...

I've voted in 10 Presidential elections ... voting for the actual winner two times.

"A broken clock is right twice a day"
Anon


Oh Hai Ponita, MJ, Miss Scarlet!

7:15 pm  
OpenID moreidlethoughts said...

Yes, I recognised that chap immediately. Out there, striding along with his poncey pants and his hyphen. (Shh...I've got a hyphen!)
Oh, while I'm here...when and for what did the Lincolnshire Poacher's son get a knighthood?

8:11 pm  
Blogger Geoff said...

Parents want to send their kids to the "best" schools nowadays. It's only natural they'd want leaders educated at the "better than best" establishments. Dave's a role model, after all.

8:13 pm  
Blogger Gerald (Ackworth born) said...

the idea of cameron foisting new wave thatcherism on us is highly depressing

8:23 pm  
Blogger Kevin Musgrove said...

And to think of all those council houses that were built when Macmillan was Minister of Housing...

Mind you, that was in the days when we had Ministries Of things rather than Departments For things, like footling little cheerleaders waving pompoms while the ship goes down...

9:40 pm  
Blogger mago said...

In Germany we once had something called "Social Democratic Party". Yeah, I remember.
My dear fellow citizens elected a party to gouvernement called "Freie Demokraten", or "Liberals". Their "program" is pure Thatcher. It is a time machine and I feel sick: It's back to the eighties.

11:53 pm  
Blogger Malc said...

The closer we get to Cameron's inevitable victory, the more depressed and angry I get.

10:33 am  
Blogger zIggI said...

When Mr Gove's plan comes in and the lunatics take over the asylum I will be retiring from the Education system. I shall idle along with all the teachers that couldn't stand it any longer - can I come and visit you Kaz?

10:54 am  
Blogger BEAST said...

Politics and politicians pfffffffffffffffft and I cant say class is any measure of self servicng stupidity , I prefer the tories in that they are a bit more honest about it( by nature of being Tories)

11:17 am  
Blogger KAZ said...

Rog:
Ass?
Yes - it's all about power.
It'll be interesting to see whether Obama can stay principled.

Scarlet:
This took me a minute - You mean come back to KAZ.
Most answers have more spin on them than Phil's bowling.

xl:
Obama and ??
Very enigmatic - are you a broken clock?

Dinah:
(Shh...you aren't the only one in the comments box!)
Lincolnshire Poacher's son ?????
I'm worried I don't understand most of my comments these days

11:44 am  
Blogger KAZ said...

Geoff:
Natural??
Role model - yes. Very reminiscent of Barbara Castle.

Gerald:
Depressing indeed.
We must start a support group.

Kevin:
Ah - council houses.
Are there any left?
Thatcher milk and council house snatcher.

Mago:
I heard a woman on the radio saying she wanted to go back to the old East Germany system.
Perhaps this is why.

Malc:
I'm already devising coping strategies ..... most involve sitting in a dark room.

zIggI:
But Mr Grove insists he will "close the educational achievement gap between rich and poor".
Surely you believe him :)
YES.

Beast:
You mean because they are tories - self serving stupidity is in their manifesto.
Can't argue with that.

12:26 pm  
Blogger Kerrie said...

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8:12 pm  
Blogger garfer said...

I should be King and dispense alms.

Better that than pay taxes to idiots who waste it.

I quite like Frank Field because he is obviously rural and would know how to to rear a pig. Even though he's from Birkenhead, the working class oik.

11:34 pm  
Blogger BEAST said...

Kaz . Exactly. As close to honesty in politics as your going to get :-)

12:53 pm  
Blogger Kerrie said...

I really don't believe that you have been around for ALL of those Priministers! It's true that politics runs in circles as the next leader tries to rectify the mistakes of the last.
I can remember my parents shouting " Maggie, Maggie ,Maggie,Out ,Out,Out but now she is remembered quite fondly by them! What's that all about.
By the way it was me who deleted a comment because I am sick of reading back my own comments and finding at least five spelling mistakes!( Please don't tell me if there are any here ).

2:04 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Garfer:
I intend to marry Frank Field.

Beast:
I shall adopt the ostrich position.

Kerrie:
(Finds red pen and gives Kerrie's comment a large tick)
Perhaps your parents have a forgiving nature. Unlike Maggie.

3:51 pm  
Blogger dinahmow said...

Oops! Sorry. Here it is, in English:
When did Margaret(Lincolnshire Poacher, as we called her)Thatcher's son, Mark, get a knighthood?
His name was mentioned'way up the list of news stories (PBS from America, in fact!)in connection with that mercenary freed from an African gaol for trying to overthrow someone.
Seems Thatcher jnr. may have had money in the deal.

4:21 am  
Blogger KAZ said...

Dinah;
How stupid can I be?
Mark inherited his knighthood from his dad Dennis who was given an hereditary peerage in the early nineties.
I know - beyond belief.

12:21 pm  
Blogger Donn said...

Fortunately we Commonwealthians can't handle the truth and if we knew how fragile the whole Political Economy thingamabob was, we'd all move to Switzerland.

The Conservatives are poised to regain a majority here in Canada. I've never voted for them but I wish that they'd teach the Liberals to stop asskissing every special-interest-group (oh yes we're all bloody victims aren't we)and keep a few bucks in the coffers.

Our only hope is if fairvotecanada can convince Canuckistanis to get rid of the ludicrous winner-take-all-first-past-the-post method of electing lawyers and farmers to run the country.

There it tiz, I've said my piece, now I'll shut up.

12:21 pm  
Blogger Madame DeFarge said...

Ah, well, at least we have fine public servants like me to actually run the country, regardless of who's in and who's out. We see them come and go all the time.

9:46 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Donn:
There's been a lot of proportional representation talk in our press this week.
If you move to Switzerland please say hello to Bowie for me.

Madame:
Thankyou.
I feel better now.

5:51 pm  
Blogger The Poet Laura-eate said...

I suppose all the lefty stuff isn't terribly cosy when it comes down to it, so the Royals represented the cosier teapot side of life (whether or not their real lives bore any relation whatsoever to the official family photographs). I took refuge in old comedy films like Will Hay which they conveniently used to screen on BBC2 after Willow the Wisp in the early 80s.

11:10 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

I don't think I've seen a Will Hay film - hope I get chance to put that right.
I watched that 3D film of the Queen on Monday through my Sainsbury's 3D glasses.
They kept reminding us that she was iconic then, just after the Coronation.
Everyone was slightly fascinated.

9:49 am  
Blogger white rabbit said...

'Here's a list of British Prime ministers so you can see what I've had to put up with during my life'.

Blimey!

It goes back to Campbell-Bannerman which would make you at least 101.

:-O

3:59 pm  
Blogger KAZ said...

Hi White Rabbit.
Not quite.
I'm post war - but only just.

8:42 am  
Blogger Rosie said...

Yes, I remember Hume well. I asked him to sign my autograph book when I was a small girl in Scotland and he said"Not I will not, little girl. I am far too important."

3:15 pm  

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